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Weird dream

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:13:45 +0000

Weird dream I had last night involved 2 hot wimminz in my bed, one brunnette one blonde (not all that strange for me) but I wake up, the brunette is kelsey and the blonde was my yellow lab.

Hahaha, im weird.

Big Sky Region (yes thats missoula) Last meeting

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:35:20 +0000

Last meeting we discussed a few things amongst the Missoula members. (full attendance)

First thing we discussed was the possibility of having dues every month to help sponsor and support club meets/stickers/clothing etc.

Everyone decided that was fair and no one voiced any objections, and it was decided that 10 dollars due at the first Monday meeting every month was fair and nobody voiced any objections.

Because of this ^ its my belief that the club should appoint a few officers for certain tasks. That brings me to my next point.

Officers.

As every club should have, we should put some serious thought into a Club president, club secretary, and club treasurer, and maybe a club vp to fill in when club president is absent.

i believe this should be decided prior to our next official meeting, so these people can at least fill into their tasks at the meeting, it can be changed later.

President should be someone who is willing to lead meetings, make sure the word is put out that meets etc are coming up, and make club decisions when a club vote cannot be taken.
I'm nominating James as president, since he has mostly stepped into that roll already.

As far secretary, we need somebody who has shown good meet attendance, and plans on attending a very large portion of the 1st Wednesday meetings, and has reliable computer access. For typing minutes etc.

Treasurer must be able to keep a ledger, attendance is not so important for this person as honesty. Must also be a person who is not very big, so i can knock the shit out of them if they steal.

V.P. should be somebody who knows whats going on as well as the president and can make decisions based on the good of the club, who can help the president make decisions and can make them in the case of the absence of the president, must not be family with the president for obvious reasons.

Please feel free to nominate those of who think fit those criteria.

My next point:
We talked briefly about what we want to do this summer as a club, and for a club meet. A few things were brought up, and unfortunately I wasn't as prepared to be the stand in secretary as i wanted to be, and didn't grab a notebook to write things down, so feel free to remind me if i missed something.

A few things we talked about are as followed.
Club wide GTG and cruise (all of nwgme) hosted by the Big Sky Region in Zoo.
it was noted that this should be based around a car show or other automobile event in the summer
Big sky (or all of nwgme) goes to Coeur d' Alene for a weekend, activities could include a day at the beach, silver wood, water park, triple play go karts, car show etc.
Big sky region mobs western WA for a weekend and poops in robs pool (yes i think this was actually brought up) and visits the rest of the members or forces rob to actually host a GTG at his house/area.

if anyone remembers anything else, please post up.

Also, I think it would be a good idea if we got some information from everyone, especially new members (yay we had a new member this month!) just for club use and to know where to send mass emails and any physical mailing that should be done. I have composed a sample application for review. It would be great if new members and existing members could fill this out so we look more like a club than a bunch of idiots with computers and cars. It will follow.

Thanks everyone for coming this month, great turnout, and I hope we can meet up again on the first with as good as luck as the last.

Heres my sample application.

Membership Application
Northwest General Motors Enthusiasts Big Sky Region Car Club
Membership in the Northwest General Motors Enthusiasts, Big Sky Region, (from herein NWGME or Club) shall be comprised of individuals dedicated to the preservation and common love for automobiles manufactured by the General Motors Corporation. Formed in 2011, The Club exists to create good fellowship, car safety, skill and sportsmanship; and participate in automobile related activities to include cruises, picnics, shows, and rod runs.
Members must be a legal adult (i.e., 18 years old), should be a person of good character, fellowship, and sportsmanship, and an upstanding citizen with a willingness to participate in Club activities and business meetings.
Any Club member who regularly commits unsafe driving acts or whose personal conduct is otherwise detrimental to the purposes and reputation of the Club, may be suspended or expelled from membership in the Club.
All new members must submit an application for membership to the Club Treasurer and pay the appropriate membership fee (see below). It would be great if the new member could make the next regular business meeting to meet everyone.
Please mail this application to the below address or give it to any current club member at any event. For additional information please feel free to call our membership director, Brent Lister at 406-544-1043 or email him or any officer.
Club Dues are $10.00 per month, per family, due on the 1st wednesday of every month during our first meeting of every month. Members are also urged to email or submit pictures of your vehicle(s) and even a picture of yourself to be included on our club roster.
(Easiest way to print the application out is to highlight the below application, right click and choose "Print", then choose "Selection" before hitting the print button)
If you would like to join us, please print out the following application and either mail to the address listed below or hand it in at one of our meetings or gatherings:

Membership Application
Northwest General Motors Enthusiasts Big Sky Region Car Club

Name: _______________________________________________________________________
Spouse or Significant Other’s Name: _______________________________________________
Address: ______________________________________________________________________
City: _______________________________________State: _______ZIP: _____________
Home Phone: ___________________________N/A Work Phone:________________________N/A
Cell Phone: ___________________N/A E-mail Address: __________________________________
Vehicle(s):
Year:  ______    Make: ________________      Model: _________________   Color:__________
Year:  ______    Make: ________________      Model: _________________   Color:__________
Year:  ______    Make: ________________      Model: _________________   Color:__________
Year:  ______    Make: ________________      Model: _________________   Color:__________
This information is requested for club use only.
Applicant Signature _______________________________
Today's date:_________________
Officer Signature ______________________________
Today's Date:________________
NWGME Big Sky Region
2075 Cooper St #125
Missoula, MT 59802

When formatted properly it looks much better, but I think that gets the just of it, at least until the next meeting.

One thing i forgot to mention.

We should come up with some cool NWGME membership cards for everyone to carry around a feel special about! Can be printed out on photo paper and laminated. Thoughts?

Big sky regional meet. 2.15.12

Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:04:09 +0000

Now that im back from playing in the banned again, we should be having a social meet tomarrow. Steve seems to be the only one in so im going to veto this one.

Ps im not the guy in charge of the meets (james)

See you 3.1.12

Loss of features

Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:51:47 +0000

A couple features had to go away. After doing an update, they were incompatible with the latest forum software and caused it to crash.

Social Sites = nuked.

Drift 2, car vs. bike

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:58:02 +0000

Epicness, go watch.

Turbo ecotec

Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:00:51 +0000

As the title states, 2.0 turbo eco out of a 09 gxp for sale. Hptuners, harness. Fully dressed ready to drop in.
13000 miles

3500.

Why you upgrade brakes on any car.

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:33:28 +0000

Wanted to keep discussing this here, because well, its an interesting subject and honestly there are perfectly legitimate reasons to upgrade brakes on even a light race use car or even daily driver. And I didn't want to keep derailing robz silly lil blazer thread.

(01-30-2012 05:52 AM)Tater Wrote: Why upgrade james, I could upgrade my pads and calipers and leave standard rotors on, making more surface area for more friction, for more braking power. But then again,my vette will skid all four tires at any speed im sure of it, so why waiste the money, the brakes are far more than adequate.

Ill give it to you that my cavalier is the only car ive ever experienced brake fade on, but you were with me that night and im pretty sure what we were doing is very far out of the realm of daily driving, unless you have babies a lot and live far from town or other reasons to hit the ER, then again, if I could do it again, we would have been in the vette, going 170+ and dead somewhere between here and lincoln, well, the incident probably wouldnt have happened in the vette either

On the other hand, it makes for a great story

Indeed an epic tale, and we would of been home in half the time or less, sans arm-b-q if you'd of had the vette, at the time lol.

I agree 100% stock J brakes suck just like Keepers stock brakes did, and we get enough road grade and wet conditions here in MT alone to justify it based on that too, thanks keeper forgot about all that, lol.

-Now my rambling about brakes-
(Remember im no scientist so my terms and such may be wrong in some cases, but the theory is the same regardless of my semi-illiterate ass.)

Brakes don't work purely by using pad on rotor friction to slow the wheel, well they do but that is only a part percentage of why they slow your car. Brakes also work by shedding kinetic energy. How, the rotational energy in the wheel is transfer-ed to the rotor hat as its the smallest diameter of the wheel/ brake assembly and the coolest at first (when its not being used to brake, obviously). When you apply the brake it pushes the pad into said rotor, partially absorbing and dissipating the kinetic energy into the pad where it dissipates.

Pads that are made of carbon (like my hawk pads) instead of metal pulp adsorb and dissipate heat way better, loads better. Stopping you faster, taking longer to overheat and create brake fade, And faster more efficient stopping equals safer driving for the daily use guys too, especially if your following some guy in a vette or cavy that locks all fours up every once in awhile, lol, were terrible.

Where the slotted rotor comes into play is the slot lines literally create channels of colder spots that the heat then tries to rush into and flow out of the rotor face and into the edge of the rotor and the internal vanes that is not touching the pad, helping keep the pad cooler longer, helping you stop faster, reducing brake fade, that is a very small part of it though.

*A side note most people lose 20% of their braking power by not putting their "fancy new rotors" on the right way, they think its about the direction of the slots on the front, but most rotors internal veins need pointed so they take in air not push it out. Some are stright out and then it don't matter, ie, stock crap.

The big advantage in the slots is to break up "rotor gas" I was referring earlier, rotor gas is a heated mixture of particles that are made up of small molecules from the rotor and pad, dust form the road, and heat, this is what becomes brake dust. This "gas" makes heat and kinetic energy transfer much harder as the gas promotes heat spreading back into the rotor and blocking new energy from escaping. This rotor gas is broken down or "beaten off" the pad and rotor by the slots in the slotted rotor speeding up energy transfer and reducing brake fade. Stopping you faster.

Now T8r is right, you don't "need" them unless you race at least some of the time, or stop very late (like my fiance, lol) I won't argue that, but as per T8R's story imagine how much longer it would of taken my better brake setup on my car with way better pads, rotors, and full syn higher boiling point fluid to break down into fade like his stock junk did. Add some stainless lines for better fluid pressure holding and that's about as good as it gets for a stock setup. Not all of us have stock vette front brakes with beefy calipers and big old rotors, or monster aftermarkets like robs sunfire. So we take whatever little help we can get, on a budget, that and most good aftermarket brake pads/ rotors are made of better materials and last longer than crapa or stock pads, most, not all, when setup right, pick the right pad for your use, I usually use semi street pads, like hawk HPS, they last longer, brake better, but arent full race pads that will eat rotors. Some are more race use only and brake down faster, know what ur buying.

So could you leave your vettes brakes alone, yes, but if you decide to up the anti on it, up the ain't on your brakes too, more power/speed equals less topping distance, combat that with new better brakes.

TO sum my rambling up...

Is any brake upgrade on a stock car neccessary, no, is it helpful, and fun, and a better value, kind of.... yes and no....

Big brake upgrades are the best, big ole rotors, big calipers, multiple pistons, aggressive design, purdy behind big ole wheels, yeah its awesome, its expensive too boot, especially on a budget build or light duty car.

A simple synthetic, brake fluid change, some slotted and/ or cross drilled (my opinion of cross drilled depends on rotor brand, cheap ones brake down faster or crack), some street/ race pads (again know your brand and what duty they are designed for and useage length), some stainless braided lines, and you've got a decent upgrade to a stock brake system, that will help you stop faster and more efficiently while driving around town or mobbing an high altitude pass brakes banging. And it won't brake your bank, if you do the research, and know what your getting for your money.

The other option to spend a lot less and improve your stock cars braking, is if you have rear drums, swap on some rear discs, most cars with rear drums stop horribly and have "ass wiggle" when braking throwing off your sweet line through the mountains, by creating too much underersteer, and in general helping brake fade hit fast and hard because the fronts do most of the work. Again if you choose to upgrade shop smartly and do your research.

Any truck guys might consider all options highly, most stock brake systems are usually way under designed and aren't helpful with heavy loads, or trucks that are way upgraded in the engine bay.

Okay I'm done now. Discuss, prove me wrong, or try, but race engineers/ drivers designed these systems to stop faster, they have all been proven to work, its all about how much you can or are willing to spend at the time. Or if you are gonna at some point upgrade the horse power level in your ride. If you go faster, for god sakes, make your brakes better so you can stop faster too.

Chbt

Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:04:54 +0000

Can haz?

Omg wtf bbq. V12.1.1

Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:10:35 +0000

Who wants to get some grub this week? Im thinking if yall want the club to stay alive, than lets keep it alive with our bi-weekly/sexual meets again.

I propose fuddruckers, like in the old days, 1st and 3rd wednessdays 7:00

Ps
I called if 12.1.1, because its 2012, the first month, and this is our first meet, I also propose, as one of the two remaining mt chapter members, I get to propose bylaws, and I propose every meet shall be titled with 12.x.x this year, for ease of future references.

I.also propose this meeting mandatory, please keep on mind, you are not required to purchase food, just show up.

I also propose this a members only meeting, aka you must be registered on here to come, since id like this to be club specific and talk about the future of the club.

I have ideas and issues, you should all hear both.

I also propose forza4 as a way to have mini meets for the entire club. the only way to do our drankin and driving legally. Usually weekends

I also propose, mt chapter gets a new slogan "my drinking team has a gm obsession."

I also propose, you must have at lest one nwgme sponsored forza4 car, you race regularly, if you own the game. You must custom paint at lest 1 gm car for club race night. Must be A class performance index

Happi birfday to my Sunfire

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:33:41 +0000

Today is 15 years after the original build date. For an early gift, a nice, dry garage to sleep in

I am NWGME.

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:02:09 +0000

Just wanted to let everyone here know, even those who don't bother to come to the site, that I, James Kellough am NWGME, and I am now 100% owner of this club, since no-one else wants it anymore, if you don't like this, leave.

Or prove me wrong by actually being productive members, here, and in person at meets.

Good day.

*self five

Cobalt

Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:56:45 +0000

http://missoula.craigslist.org/cto/2750990164.html

[fs] 3157 LED switchback bulbs - $60 shipped

Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:10:55 +0000

I ordered the wrong ones.

These are for CK style sockets, not standard like I needed. Damn multimeter lied to me

5k White park light + Amber turn signals.... white will turn off when turn signal applied, then turn back on when done

Product page:

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED-Bulbs...8-1-2.html

The tabs on one bulb where it plugs in the socket have been shaved down so it would fit, this is cosmetic only and will not affect bulb function.

Please see the youtube vid below to determine if this bulb will work for your needs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ONj-NJd...r_embedded

need help asap with throttle problem

Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:05:34 +0000

hey guys i haven't posted on here in a while, but i am having a major issue with my car and need some help. I replaced my tps yesterday, and somehow in the course of removing my intake and throttle body to get to it i managed to get my gas pedal stuck halfway down. Now when i start it up it idles at like 4 grand even when under the hood the throttle body doesn't move. I tried to pull it back into place but its really stuck, any ideas?

yay crazy apache server screen

Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:23:01 +0000

is gone and now i can use this website again. weee

:)

Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:43:06 +0000

someone just bought a 2008 gxp, yes yes. guess whos back

dealer pic, ill get some up tonight or tomorrow

26907.jpg (Size: 216.69 KB / Downloads: 18)

I SPRUNG A LEAK!!!! :'(

Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:11:45 +0000

Sooo.... My white beast is current stationed in the shop. After about a week of what the hells and why the fooocks.... I believe this new (bigger) oil leak is coming from the timing chain region, not a good plan.
Haven't had time to dig in and check seeing as the shop is occupied by a bunch of yellow things (the nerve!) But from what I can tell it seems to be the gasket has had about enough.
So I am asking this..... any research and or information you peeps can dig up would be appreciated much. I have spent far too many o' hours researching and it seems either way this is going to be quite the task unfortunately.

So yeah carry on and any advice will be digested thoroughly!

thanks ya'll!
charwee

Now this is an epic winz corvette

Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:03:49 +0000

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-b...02457.html

Removing redundant categories of redundancy

Wed, 05 Oct 2011 07:10:15 +0000

In no particular order...

~~Classifieds: can be merged into a single forum. for sale, wanted, and free as subforums. This will be then moved to the main category.~~ - done

Photos/Media: ~~Everything Else / Work in Progress can be merged to a single forum since both get used interchangeably anyway.~~ -- merged. Everything Else is the sole survivor

~~Technical Discussions: is this even needed anymore?~~ - baleeted

Platform discussions: part of a brainstorming session was to remove the platform designations and go with make/model. How to effectively pull this off is TBD.

Regional Events: ~~I'm leaving this to everyone else.... discuss. My suggestion, break it down by state instead of these little sub-regions?~~ Done. Now listed by state instead of regions

Club Discussion: ~~Bugs/Features can be merged in to a single forum.~~ Product Reviews is out of place there... not sure where to move that. ~~Merge General/OT with Member Discussions and make OT a subforum of General.~~ All posts from General were moved to Mem Discussions, new OT subform created in Mem Disc, General forum baleeted.

Front Page announcement and news, ~~eliminate.~~ ~~new: merge the two under the title News~~ - done... merged as news

Beta Forum (select member access only): ~~move to bottom of page~~ - Done

This is my proposal. Now for your opinion.

WTB: 2.4L LD9 complete engine minus accesories

Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:54:54 +0000

Its that time again, the hunt for an relatively low mileage 2.4l LD9 (low mileage within reason, considering its an increasingly rare engine to find with low miles).

Holly got rear ended to the tune of 800 bones or more in a fat check for us, the car has no major damage that needs fixed so, all that money goes into the future Ravenfire account, that and paying the blucavy off this x-mas means more fundage for motorz funz.

So... Looking to pickup a good running LD9 to swap into Holly's Ravenfire once this ticking time bomb of a J-rod special engine has put out its last oomph.. there is no major hurry as the engine in the car now runs fine but it has 110k on it and it was maintained not as good as it should be (nicest way to put it). And proper maintenance now and seafoam only go so far... lol....

So a replacement stock engine is in order in the future to keep the car drive-able until such time as a re-built (forged ftw) engine can be finished for it.

I'm putting this here so you guys can keep an eye out for me, I try to be everywhere online,but the pornz draw me astray, lol.
If you see anything with under 100k let me know, or throw the link up here.

Thanks peeps.